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day light savings cost us money. does not save it.

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:55 pm
by gurthoira
was hearing them talk about this on the scientific american podcast.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/new-e ... t-me-money

ends up costing us 1% more power... just get rid of the dam dumb idea already.

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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:59 pm
by Greebo
I like it. Not for any power savings, but because I like long evenings and I don't get up early. Make it all year long, I say.

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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:20 pm
by Yrzuli
DST has been a hatred of mine for years.  It's long past its usefulness.

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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:11 pm
by Pincus
I, being a native Hoosier, am split on it.

It does suck in some cases, but the defense I heard while in Indiana was "the extra hour would burn the corn"...and they weren't joking...makes me want to keep it longer to make sure that god damn corn burns.

(Yes, seriously. The extra hour would burn the corn. By the same people who tried to make the official value of pi 3. By law.)

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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:16 pm
by Araun
Pincus wrote: (Yes, seriously. The extra hour would burn the corn. By the same people who tried to make the official value of pi 3. By law.)
Wait, I have to get a grip on this.  They were concerned that legislation would create an extra hour of sunlight per day, and this sunlight would damage the crops?

I don't know what disturbs me more, the idea that someone thinks the American government can legislate natural law, or what would happen if they could.

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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:10 pm
by Thalevia
Araun wrote:
Pincus wrote: (Yes, seriously. The extra hour would burn the corn. By the same people who tried to make the official value of pi 3. By law.)
Wait, I have to get a grip on this.  They were concerned that legislation would create an extra hour of sunlight per day, and this sunlight would damage the crops?

I don't know what disturbs me more, the idea that someone thinks the American government can legislate natural law, or what would happen if they could.
Um they are aware they get the sunlight no matter what right?  No one is that fucking stupid right...right?  Guys....

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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:38 am
by Pincus
It's Indiana.

Look, we have smart people here. But....I mean, the state was practically run by the Klan until the 20's until it [url=http://"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.C._Stephenson"]all fell apart[/url]...and parts of the state, like Whiteland (yes, the actual name of the town), still are (I have a long story about a friend of mine about her time teaching there, being the token Korean in the school...and the classic "dumb redneck calls out a minority, but why would you say that when he is 3 times your size, plus the 15 other teammates that are with him, WTF" story...but I digress).

And let's not forget to mention the [url=http://"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill"]Indiana Pi Bill[/url]. And in more recent times (no reference, sadly), the state funding a multi-million dollar study as to why college students are leaving Indiana...and discovering that the reason is because, well, it's boring in Indiana.

(In all fairness, there was a 2nd reason for not going to DST, and it involves a weirdness in how Indiana handled DST. The areas around Louisville and Chicago stayed local to the respective cities time...which had some advantages to banks in Indiana who were making financial transactions between Chicago and NYC for part of the year)

But again, I don't live in Indiana anymore. Teh Stupid, it burns....and lord help me if I ever see another stalk of corn again.

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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:05 am
by Allison
I hate Daylight Savings Time with a burning passion. It is one of my two major annoyances, and its abolition is one of the two things I would campaign on if I was running for president. (The other being the adoption of the metric system).

Haaaaaaaate.


One of the only good things about growing up in Arizona was not having to deal with that shit.

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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:15 am
by Inzema
Pincus wrote: But again, I don't live in Indiana anymore. Teh Stupid, it burns....and lord help me if I ever see another stalk of corn again.
Well then I suggest avoiding Scottyland and the Grim Camping trips. Massive fields of corn all along the roadside.

However, I highly recommend NOT avoiding the camping trips because I may have to hunt you down and drag you to them if I find out you're avoiding them because of corn.  Then I'll leave you in a cornfield when we're done with you.

Dun dun dun.

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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:13 pm
by Pincus
Oh, I know, I know. But that isn't bad.

What is bad is going to Purdue, where just past the football fields were cornfields...the campus surrounded by corn and soybean fields. No buildings, no nothing. Add to that the restriction on buildings no higher than 3 stories...

For five years.

You'd want to never see another stalk as well.

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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:52 pm
by Yrzuli
Inzema wrote: Well then I suggest avoiding Scottyland and the Grim Camping trips. Massive fields of corn all along the roadside.
The cornfields were insane.  I'm actually surprised that Anaie didn't run us off the road to plow through them, but then I think you'd already filled the 'running off the road' quota, Inzema.  And Pincus is well-versed in Grim camping, as he was there the first year with his lovely (then future) wife.  Who learned that we called him Pincus, and that his character wore a dress.  Much amusement all around, especially for her.

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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:17 pm
by Araun
Man, reading the article Pincus linked really brings home how bizarre Klan ranks are.  It's like the whole thing is some terrible LARP that got way out of hand one afternoon.