Abric Builds a Computer
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I know my asus came with an internet browsing mode that you could boot to without hitting hard drives (It was defaulted). I can't remember what it was called but I disabled it very quickly. You might want to see if that's the case. If not, are there firmware updates available?
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Got my CAT 6 cable in, so now the PC is connected to the interwebs on its own, instead of having to rely on the Mac.
60MBps upload and download? Yes please. Trying to install stuff on a 1.5MBps was getting a little too slow.
60MBps upload and download? Yes please. Trying to install stuff on a 1.5MBps was getting a little too slow.
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1.5 Mbps? What sort of gimped out wireless were you using?
Also I hope they didn't charge you extra for Cat 6 over Cat 5e.
Also also hey! good news buddy! sounds rockin'.
*cough*
Also I hope they didn't charge you extra for Cat 6 over Cat 5e.
Also also hey! good news buddy! sounds rockin'.
*cough*
Grisbault, Twice-Made.
The p, s, l, and t are silent, the screams are not.
The p, s, l, and t are silent, the screams are not.
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So what kind of hardware did you end up going with??
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Need to figure out why battle.net won't let me log on. Doom!
EDIT: Need to figure out why Firefox won't let me log onto battle.net. DOOM!
EDIT: Need to figure out why Firefox won't let me log onto battle.net. DOOM!
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Nothing, it just stalls when I put in my username and password. Stalls in it seems it is thinking (like there is no connection), not in a legitimate stall. I can close the window, move to another tab, or even to go a program... but it is only in Firefox. In IE9, it loads right up to the authenticator window.
For the firmware, it may need to be updated. Need to turn off this fucking hibernate option, wherever the hell it is. I hate hibernate - I hate it with a passion. I'm still under the firm belief that it caused all the problems with my last two computers.
EDIT: There it is. Every time I type something up, I remember where it is. Hrm... I wonder where I put my million dollars in small bills.
For the firmware, it may need to be updated. Need to turn off this fucking hibernate option, wherever the hell it is. I hate hibernate - I hate it with a passion. I'm still under the firm belief that it caused all the problems with my last two computers.
EDIT: There it is. Every time I type something up, I remember where it is. Hrm... I wonder where I put my million dollars in small bills.
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There can be 2 levels of hibernate: Operating System and BIOS. I'm sure you're more than competent enough to Google how to set either to off. As an FYI Hibernate caused me more headaches and issues than I can freaking count! You have more than a hunch, hibernate doesn't belong on a gaming machine. The only thing that I think should ever be shut down is your monitor.
It's the hard drive hibernate that seems to have caused me the worst problems over the years. I'm almost tempted to hack it out of my system through the registry because I detest the feature so much (It's like sticky keys, who the FUCK uses sticky keys?!).
It's the hard drive hibernate that seems to have caused me the worst problems over the years. I'm almost tempted to hack it out of my system through the registry because I detest the feature so much (It's like sticky keys, who the FUCK uses sticky keys?!).
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Not quite anymore. You fail. Now go read the ACPI and EFI specs and come back when you understand them... (and knowing how many drugs you can consume, maybe you can actually UNDERSTAND these abortions). "Hibernation" nowadays is much more subtle, and you can gets parts of the machine to shut down as needed.Ashenfury wrote:There can be 2 levels of hibernate: Operating System and BIOS. I'm sure you're more than competent enough to Google how to set either to off. As an FYI Hibernate caused me more headaches and issues than I can freaking count! You have more than a hunch, hibernate doesn't belong on a gaming machine. The only thing that I think should ever be shut down is your monitor.
It's the hard drive hibernate that seems to have caused me the worst problems over the years. I'm almost tempted to hack it out of my system through the registry because I detest the feature so much (It's like sticky keys, who the FUCK uses sticky keys?!).
Most hibernates are now ACPI controlled, and the "BIOS" really doesn't play a part in power management anymore, but now it's a mess of spaghetti firmware + your operating system (here). All the BIOS does now is say "HEY, I can do power savings", and then forget to tell the OS that "BTW, you have to do all the work yourself, KTHXBYE".
Honestly, if you don't want a power bill from hell, you'll learn how to kick parts of your machine to sleep as you need to. Granted, most of the work has been done on laptops, where watts = battery lifetime, but desktops are getting focused on as well, since less wattage = less cost for your datacenter. Your biggest power hungry monsters are going to be your video cards, and any rotating equipment (HD's mostly). Make sure your drivers are set up to turn those monsters off if you're not using them. You have, what, 8+ gigs of memory? Make sure Windows is caching like a bad boy then. You can shove most of WoW's data into RAM at that point.
As for hibernating the whole system when you're done for a day...don't. You have an SSD so boot time should be fast-ish. The vampire load on a hibernating machine is not a small amount of juice.
(and this is coming from experience in tweaking systems to pull as little juice and do useful work at the same time. I still need to finish the desktop, but my laptops were hovering at a high 10W...I know I could do better)
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Maybe it's the massive intake of drugs that has become synonymous with my postings but I still don't see how any of what I said was wrong.
ACPI and EFI are still only interfaces, right? The guts of said hibernation still live on both the operating system and the motherboard. You said it yourself: The motherboard can shut down things (I did use the term hibernation as a general term) without caring about your OS. Also, your OS can shut down things on it's level using the interfaces you spoke of to communicate to the hardware. A mismatch between the 2 WILL cause headaches. Of course assuming that the OS can shut something down without interfacing with the hardware would mean that you have no functional knowledge of the difference between software and hardware. If that's what you were getting at then you're correct: Windows holds a separate configuration for interfacing with the motherboard's power control functions.
ACPI and EFI are still only interfaces, right? The guts of said hibernation still live on both the operating system and the motherboard. You said it yourself: The motherboard can shut down things (I did use the term hibernation as a general term) without caring about your OS. Also, your OS can shut down things on it's level using the interfaces you spoke of to communicate to the hardware. A mismatch between the 2 WILL cause headaches. Of course assuming that the OS can shut something down without interfacing with the hardware would mean that you have no functional knowledge of the difference between software and hardware. If that's what you were getting at then you're correct: Windows holds a separate configuration for interfacing with the motherboard's power control functions.
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Yeah, I found the option for hibernation and it was broken down to monitor, HDD, and the system itself. I have my monitors turn off at 15 minutes, but that's about it. Since Windows is on the SSD, the power consumption isn't the same as an HDD, so from my understanding that I received from the interwebs, there really isn't going to be much difference between "on" and "off" with an SSD.
Of course, if I leave my computer for more than 30 minutes, I turn it off. I also try to keep everything from doing automatic updates and keeping my connection active as much as possible. The less the computer does when I don't want it to do something; the better. It's how I've been trained!
Of course, if I leave my computer for more than 30 minutes, I turn it off. I also try to keep everything from doing automatic updates and keeping my connection active as much as possible. The less the computer does when I don't want it to do something; the better. It's how I've been trained!
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Maybe I should have added the tl;dr.Ashenfury wrote:Maybe it's the massive intake of drugs that has become synonymous with my postings but I still don't see how any of what I said was wrong.
ACPI and EFI are still only interfaces, right? The guts of said hibernation still live on both the operating system and the motherboard. You said it yourself: The motherboard can shut down things (I did use the term hibernation as a general term) without caring about your OS. Also, your OS can shut down things on it's level using the interfaces you spoke of to communicate to the hardware. A mismatch between the 2 WILL cause headaches. Of course assuming that the OS can shut something down without interfacing with the hardware would mean that you have no functional knowledge of the difference between software and hardware. If that's what you were getting at then you're correct: Windows holds a separate configuration for interfacing with the motherboard's power control functions.
Windows/Mac OSX/Linux now does all the work for Hibernation, plus the firmware on your hardware. This Will Work(tm) as long as the people coding your firmware aren't crack-adled monkeys. In fact, the firmware on most motherboards will just literally flip the power switch on the hardware. It's up to the OS to save state nowadays.
And, really, the only things that do shutdown on their "own" are X86 multicores. Intel has gotten really good at doing that on the iX series for the most part. They've gotten much better at power management from the Pentium 4 days.