Having some serious lag trouble and need some help.
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Maluce
Re: Having some serious lag trouble and need some help.
Well, assuming, I was looking at the right stuff - the VS(Virtual memory size assumably) for WoW remained at541kish (about 30 FPS) and then when it started to lag it jumped to about 675kish and at 10-15 FPS it evened out to about 663k. I'm not sure if this is what I was supposed to be looking at. As far as I can tell there were no Mbs anywhere on any of the other 46 processes.
Re: Having some serious lag trouble and need some help.
Yeah, its paging then due to memory pressure. I didn't realize wow was so nasty on the memory usage on windows. Gotta be the new textures with the 3.3 patch.Maluce wrote: Well, assuming, I was looking at the right stuff - the VS(Virtual memory size assumably) for WoW remained at541kish (about 30 FPS) and then when it started to lag it jumped to about 675kish and at 10-15 FPS it evened out to about 663k. I'm not sure if this is what I was supposed to be looking at. As far as I can tell there were no Mbs anywhere on any of the other 46 processes.
More memory is the answer. With an older system like that anther Gb or two is only going to be $40 or so.
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Maluce
Re: Having some serious lag trouble and need some help.
Hmm ok. I might be able to scrounge up the money for that in the coming weeks. But what can I do before that -- assuming this really is the issue how can I maximize my memory use? Just deleting old games and whatnot or is there something else?
And whether it helps or not -- It remained at roughly 663k from then on out -- whether it was at 5 FPS or 30 FPS... Not sure if that's indicative of anything or not.
Unfortunately, as much as I want to play it really is quite frustrating to play under such conditions. ><
And whether it helps or not -- It remained at roughly 663k from then on out -- whether it was at 5 FPS or 30 FPS... Not sure if that's indicative of anything or not.
Unfortunately, as much as I want to play it really is quite frustrating to play under such conditions. ><
Last edited by Maluce on Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:15 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Having some serious lag trouble and need some help.
deleting old games won't make a difference. you might try defragging your c: drive.
In Process Explorer, click on the File menu and then Save As. Save it to your desktop or somewhere, open the text file you just saved and paste into this thread.
Do you have an up-to-date antivirus? When was the last time you did a full scan? Do you have an adware scanner like Spybot or Ad-aware? Do you have windows updates set to automatically download and install new things?
Personally I suspect something to do with 3.3. Have you downloaded the latest drivers for your video card?
In Process Explorer, click on the File menu and then Save As. Save it to your desktop or somewhere, open the text file you just saved and paste into this thread.
Do you have an up-to-date antivirus? When was the last time you did a full scan? Do you have an adware scanner like Spybot or Ad-aware? Do you have windows updates set to automatically download and install new things?
Personally I suspect something to do with 3.3. Have you downloaded the latest drivers for your video card?
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Maluce
Re: Having some serious lag trouble and need some help.
Again, I'd like to thank everyone for the speedy replies and the patience. I think we're making some progress at least.
The virus thing is the only thing I haven't done. I know, stupid, right? But my step-dad's cheap. One of the Grim told me of Avast anti-virus stuff and I got about 25% complete with a thorough scan of everything and it found a trojan and (I suppose) deleted it before I had to shut it off. If I can remember I plan on having it run all night tonight as I sleep. as for anti-spyware, I'm also lacking in that -- unless Avast covers that.
I'll try the defrag either tonight or tomorrow night. I unfortunately will be gone most of the morning, day and evening tomorrow to make it go any quicker.
As far as I can tell, I actually JUST updated my video card driver after reading through Blizz's Tech Forums with people with similar problems and a link to the latest video card drivers for my card. I'm assuming it'd be something in the first post I posted in the thread, though.
I figured it might be 3.3 but wouldn't it have started as soon as I downloaded it? It didn't seem to have any problems until a few days if not more after I downloaded the patch.
Process PID CPU Description Company Name Virtual Size Window Title Window Status
WUSB54GSC.exe 3324 Linksys 74,520 K
wuauclt.exe 2280 Windows Update Microsoft Corporation 36,872 K
wmplayer.exe 2148 Windows Media Player Microsoft Corporation 130,532 K Windows Media Player Running
WLService.exe 736 WLService GEMTEKS 17,412 K
winlogon.exe 916 Windows NT Logon Application Microsoft Corporation 55,900 K
ViewpointService.exe 672 ViewMgr Viewpoint Corporation 29,996 K
TurbineNetworkService.exe 3908 TurbineNetworkService.exe Turbine, Inc. 164,740 K
TurbineMessageService.exe 1720 TurbineMessageService.exe Turbine, Inc. 160,704 K
TurbineDownloadManagerIcon.exe 520 TurbineDownloadManagerIcon.exe Turbine, Inc. 168,420 K
System Idle Process 0 87.69 0 K
System 4 1,884 K
svchost.exe 1204 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 61,528 K
svchost.exe 1272 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 35,324 K
svchost.exe 1416 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 156,484 K
svchost.exe 1532 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 31,636 K
svchost.exe 1668 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 52,480 K
svchost.exe 1344 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 32,480 K
svchost.exe 4080 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 36,628 K
spoolsv.exe 488 Spooler SubSystem App Microsoft Corporation 41,872 K
smss.exe 816 Windows NT Session Manager Microsoft Corporation 3,808 K
services.exe 964 0.77 Services and Controller app Microsoft Corporation 22,032 K
rundll32.exe 568 Run a DLL as an App Microsoft Corporation 35,048 K
RTHDCPL.EXE 188 Realtek HD Audio Control Panel Realtek Semiconductor Corp. 61,080 K
procexp.exe 652 6.92 Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com 96,188 K Process Explorer - Sysinternals: www.sysinternals.com [JONATHAN-74D56F\Jonathan] Running
PresentationFontCache.exe 1632 PresentationFontCache.exe Microsoft Corporation 108,684 K
nvsvc32.exe 1136 NVIDIA Driver Helper Service, Version 195.62 NVIDIA Corporation 39,112 K
msmsgs.exe 656 Windows Messenger Microsoft Corporation 42,672 K
lsass.exe 976 LSA Shell (Export Version) Microsoft Corporation 42,556 K
jusched.exe 296 Java(TM) Platform SE binary Sun Microsystems, Inc. 31,096 K
jucheck.exe 3692 Java(TM) Update Checker Sun Microsystems, Inc. 49,612 K
jqs.exe 1184 Java(TM) Quick Starter Service Sun Microsystems, Inc. 37,052 K
Interrupts n/a 0.77 Hardware Interrupts 0 K
firefox.exe 940 Firefox Mozilla Corporation 122,080 K Having some serious lag trouble and need some help. - Mozilla Firefox Running
explorer.exe 1500 Windows Explorer Microsoft Corporation 106,564 K ProcessExplorer Running
DPCs n/a 1.54 Deferred Procedure Calls 0 K
daemon.exe 1372 DAEMON Tools Lite DT Soft Ltd 50,200 K
CurseClient.exe 1744 51,756 K
CurseClient.exe 1228 Curse Client Curse 467,608 K
ctfmon.exe 1408 CTF Loader Microsoft Corporation 29,680 K
csrss.exe 892 Client Server Runtime Process Microsoft Corporation 49,316 K
btdna.exe 1472 DNA BitTorrent, Inc. 53,016 K
aswUpdSv.exe 1888 avast! Antivirus updating service ALWIL Software 16,968 K
ashWebSv.exe 2436 avast! Web Scanner ALWIL Software 137,060 K
ashServ.exe 1944 avast! antivirus service ALWIL Software 170,808 K
ashMaiSv.exe 2276 avast! e-Mail Scanner Service ALWIL Software 48,040 K
ashDisp.exe 576 avast! service GUI component ALWIL Software 45,328 K
aolsoftware.exe 2852 AOL AOL LLC 68,548 K
alg.exe 2832 Application Layer Gateway Service Microsoft Corporation 32,940 K
aim6.exe 604 2.31 AIM AOL LLC 194,128 K 2 IMs (1 new) Running
agrsmsvc.exe 1568 Agere Soft Modem Call Progress Service Agere Systems 10,868 K
The virus thing is the only thing I haven't done. I know, stupid, right? But my step-dad's cheap. One of the Grim told me of Avast anti-virus stuff and I got about 25% complete with a thorough scan of everything and it found a trojan and (I suppose) deleted it before I had to shut it off. If I can remember I plan on having it run all night tonight as I sleep. as for anti-spyware, I'm also lacking in that -- unless Avast covers that.
I'll try the defrag either tonight or tomorrow night. I unfortunately will be gone most of the morning, day and evening tomorrow to make it go any quicker.
As far as I can tell, I actually JUST updated my video card driver after reading through Blizz's Tech Forums with people with similar problems and a link to the latest video card drivers for my card. I'm assuming it'd be something in the first post I posted in the thread, though.
I figured it might be 3.3 but wouldn't it have started as soon as I downloaded it? It didn't seem to have any problems until a few days if not more after I downloaded the patch.
Process PID CPU Description Company Name Virtual Size Window Title Window Status
WUSB54GSC.exe 3324 Linksys 74,520 K
wuauclt.exe 2280 Windows Update Microsoft Corporation 36,872 K
wmplayer.exe 2148 Windows Media Player Microsoft Corporation 130,532 K Windows Media Player Running
WLService.exe 736 WLService GEMTEKS 17,412 K
winlogon.exe 916 Windows NT Logon Application Microsoft Corporation 55,900 K
ViewpointService.exe 672 ViewMgr Viewpoint Corporation 29,996 K
TurbineNetworkService.exe 3908 TurbineNetworkService.exe Turbine, Inc. 164,740 K
TurbineMessageService.exe 1720 TurbineMessageService.exe Turbine, Inc. 160,704 K
TurbineDownloadManagerIcon.exe 520 TurbineDownloadManagerIcon.exe Turbine, Inc. 168,420 K
System Idle Process 0 87.69 0 K
System 4 1,884 K
svchost.exe 1204 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 61,528 K
svchost.exe 1272 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 35,324 K
svchost.exe 1416 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 156,484 K
svchost.exe 1532 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 31,636 K
svchost.exe 1668 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 52,480 K
svchost.exe 1344 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 32,480 K
svchost.exe 4080 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 36,628 K
spoolsv.exe 488 Spooler SubSystem App Microsoft Corporation 41,872 K
smss.exe 816 Windows NT Session Manager Microsoft Corporation 3,808 K
services.exe 964 0.77 Services and Controller app Microsoft Corporation 22,032 K
rundll32.exe 568 Run a DLL as an App Microsoft Corporation 35,048 K
RTHDCPL.EXE 188 Realtek HD Audio Control Panel Realtek Semiconductor Corp. 61,080 K
procexp.exe 652 6.92 Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com 96,188 K Process Explorer - Sysinternals: www.sysinternals.com [JONATHAN-74D56F\Jonathan] Running
PresentationFontCache.exe 1632 PresentationFontCache.exe Microsoft Corporation 108,684 K
nvsvc32.exe 1136 NVIDIA Driver Helper Service, Version 195.62 NVIDIA Corporation 39,112 K
msmsgs.exe 656 Windows Messenger Microsoft Corporation 42,672 K
lsass.exe 976 LSA Shell (Export Version) Microsoft Corporation 42,556 K
jusched.exe 296 Java(TM) Platform SE binary Sun Microsystems, Inc. 31,096 K
jucheck.exe 3692 Java(TM) Update Checker Sun Microsystems, Inc. 49,612 K
jqs.exe 1184 Java(TM) Quick Starter Service Sun Microsystems, Inc. 37,052 K
Interrupts n/a 0.77 Hardware Interrupts 0 K
firefox.exe 940 Firefox Mozilla Corporation 122,080 K Having some serious lag trouble and need some help. - Mozilla Firefox Running
explorer.exe 1500 Windows Explorer Microsoft Corporation 106,564 K ProcessExplorer Running
DPCs n/a 1.54 Deferred Procedure Calls 0 K
daemon.exe 1372 DAEMON Tools Lite DT Soft Ltd 50,200 K
CurseClient.exe 1744 51,756 K
CurseClient.exe 1228 Curse Client Curse 467,608 K
ctfmon.exe 1408 CTF Loader Microsoft Corporation 29,680 K
csrss.exe 892 Client Server Runtime Process Microsoft Corporation 49,316 K
btdna.exe 1472 DNA BitTorrent, Inc. 53,016 K
aswUpdSv.exe 1888 avast! Antivirus updating service ALWIL Software 16,968 K
ashWebSv.exe 2436 avast! Web Scanner ALWIL Software 137,060 K
ashServ.exe 1944 avast! antivirus service ALWIL Software 170,808 K
ashMaiSv.exe 2276 avast! e-Mail Scanner Service ALWIL Software 48,040 K
ashDisp.exe 576 avast! service GUI component ALWIL Software 45,328 K
aolsoftware.exe 2852 AOL AOL LLC 68,548 K
alg.exe 2832 Application Layer Gateway Service Microsoft Corporation 32,940 K
aim6.exe 604 2.31 AIM AOL LLC 194,128 K 2 IMs (1 new) Running
agrsmsvc.exe 1568 Agere Soft Modem Call Progress Service Agere Systems 10,868 K
Last edited by Maluce on Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:54 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Maluce
Re: Having some serious lag trouble and need some help.
That was the way it was without WoW on.
Here's WoW running normally (at about 30 FPS). It ran a bit better just now. It took maybe 10 minutes to screw up and then it seemed to recover rather quickly. and for some reason it even went up to 40-50 FPS for a couple seconds intermittently too. O.o Maybe because it's 1:30 AM?
Process PID CPU Description Company Name Virtual Size Window Title Window Status
WUSB54GSC.exe 3324 15.38 Linksys 74,520 K
wuauclt.exe 2280 Windows Update Microsoft Corporation 36,872 K
Wow.exe 2920 World of Warcraft Retail Blizzard Entertainment 476,264 K World of Warcraft Running
WLService.exe 736 WLService GEMTEKS 17,412 K
winlogon.exe 916 Windows NT Logon Application Microsoft Corporation 56,412 K
ViewpointService.exe 672 ViewMgr Viewpoint Corporation 29,996 K
TurbineNetworkService.exe 3908 TurbineNetworkService.exe Turbine, Inc. 164,740 K
TurbineMessageService.exe 1720 TurbineMessageService.exe Turbine, Inc. 160,704 K
TurbineDownloadManagerIcon.exe 520 0.77 TurbineDownloadManagerIcon.exe Turbine, Inc. 169,444 K
System Idle Process 0 70.00 0 K
System 4 1,884 K
svchost.exe 1204 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 61,272 K
svchost.exe 1272 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 35,324 K
svchost.exe 1416 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 156,740 K
svchost.exe 1532 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 31,636 K
svchost.exe 1668 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 52,256 K
svchost.exe 1344 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 32,480 K
svchost.exe 4080 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 36,628 K
spoolsv.exe 488 Spooler SubSystem App Microsoft Corporation 41,872 K
smss.exe 816 Windows NT Session Manager Microsoft Corporation 3,808 K
services.exe 964 0.77 Services and Controller app Microsoft Corporation 22,032 K
rundll32.exe 568 Run a DLL as an App Microsoft Corporation 35,048 K
RTHDCPL.EXE 188 Realtek HD Audio Control Panel Realtek Semiconductor Corp. 61,080 K
procexp.exe 3160 6.92 Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com 96,188 K Process Explorer - Sysinternals: www.sysinternals.com [JONATHAN-74D56F\Jonathan] Running
PresentationFontCache.exe 1632 PresentationFontCache.exe Microsoft Corporation 108,684 K
nvsvc32.exe 1136 NVIDIA Driver Helper Service, Version 195.62 NVIDIA Corporation 39,112 K
msmsgs.exe 656 Windows Messenger Microsoft Corporation 42,672 K
lsass.exe 976 LSA Shell (Export Version) Microsoft Corporation 42,556 K
jusched.exe 296 Java(TM) Platform SE binary Sun Microsystems, Inc. 31,096 K
jucheck.exe 3692 Java(TM) Update Checker Sun Microsystems, Inc. 49,612 K
jqs.exe 1184 Java(TM) Quick Starter Service Sun Microsystems, Inc. 37,052 K
Interrupts n/a Hardware Interrupts 0 K
firefox.exe 940 Firefox Mozilla Corporation 122,104 K Post reply - Mozilla Firefox Running
explorer.exe 1500 Windows Explorer Microsoft Corporation 106,220 K ProcessExplorer Running
DPCs n/a 2.31 Deferred Procedure Calls 0 K
daemon.exe 1372 DAEMON Tools Lite DT Soft Ltd 50,200 K
CurseClient.exe 1744 51,756 K
CurseClient.exe 1228 Curse Client Curse 467,608 K
ctfmon.exe 1408 CTF Loader Microsoft Corporation 29,680 K
csrss.exe 892 2.31 Client Server Runtime Process Microsoft Corporation 48,916 K
btdna.exe 1472 DNA BitTorrent, Inc. 51,992 K
aswUpdSv.exe 1888 avast! Antivirus updating service ALWIL Software 16,968 K
ashWebSv.exe 2436 avast! Web Scanner ALWIL Software 137,060 K
ashServ.exe 1944 avast! antivirus service ALWIL Software 170,808 K
ashMaiSv.exe 2276 avast! e-Mail Scanner Service ALWIL Software 48,040 K
ashDisp.exe 576 avast! service GUI component ALWIL Software 45,328 K
aolsoftware.exe 2852 AOL AOL LLC 68,548 K
alg.exe 2832 Application Layer Gateway Service Microsoft Corporation 32,940 K
aim6.exe 604 1.54 AIM AOL LLC 194,128 K 2 IMs (2 new) Running
agrsmsvc.exe 1568 Agere Soft Modem Call Progress Service Agere Systems 10,868 K
Now here it is with the lag at about 15-20 FPS. Granted, for some reason it took a fair bit longer tonight to get to this point and it seemed to recover rather quickly. Whether this is just a fluke or not, I can't tell.
Process PID CPU Description Company Name Virtual Size Window Title Window Status
WUSB54GSC.exe 3324 45.45 Linksys 74,520 K
wuauclt.exe 2280 Windows Update Microsoft Corporation 36,872 K
Wow.exe 2920 0.76 World of Warcraft Retail Blizzard Entertainment 625,388 K World of Warcraft Running
WLService.exe 736 WLService GEMTEKS 17,412 K
winlogon.exe 916 Windows NT Logon Application Microsoft Corporation 56,156 K
ViewpointService.exe 672 ViewMgr Viewpoint Corporation 29,996 K
TurbineNetworkService.exe 3908 TurbineNetworkService.exe Turbine, Inc. 164,740 K
TurbineMessageService.exe 1720 TurbineMessageService.exe Turbine, Inc. 160,704 K
TurbineDownloadManagerIcon.exe 520 TurbineDownloadManagerIcon.exe Turbine, Inc. 169,444 K
System Idle Process 0 46.21 0 K
System 4 1,884 K
svchost.exe 1204 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 61,272 K
svchost.exe 1272 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 35,068 K
svchost.exe 1416 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 155,972 K
svchost.exe 1532 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 31,380 K
svchost.exe 1668 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 51,488 K
svchost.exe 1344 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 32,480 K
svchost.exe 4080 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 36,628 K
spoolsv.exe 488 Spooler SubSystem App Microsoft Corporation 41,872 K
smss.exe 816 Windows NT Session Manager Microsoft Corporation 3,808 K
services.exe 964 0.76 Services and Controller app Microsoft Corporation 22,032 K
rundll32.exe 568 Run a DLL as an App Microsoft Corporation 35,048 K
RTHDCPL.EXE 188 Realtek HD Audio Control Panel Realtek Semiconductor Corp. 61,080 K
procexp.exe 3160 6.06 Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com 95,168 K Process Explorer - Sysinternals: www.sysinternals.com [JONATHAN-74D56F\Jonathan] Running
PresentationFontCache.exe 1632 PresentationFontCache.exe Microsoft Corporation 108,684 K
nvsvc32.exe 1136 NVIDIA Driver Helper Service, Version 195.62 NVIDIA Corporation 39,112 K
msmsgs.exe 656 Windows Messenger Microsoft Corporation 42,672 K
lsass.exe 976 LSA Shell (Export Version) Microsoft Corporation 42,556 K
jusched.exe 296 Java(TM) Platform SE binary Sun Microsystems, Inc. 31,096 K
jucheck.exe 3692 Java(TM) Update Checker Sun Microsystems, Inc. 49,612 K
jqs.exe 1184 Java(TM) Quick Starter Service Sun Microsystems, Inc. 37,052 K
Interrupts n/a Hardware Interrupts 0 K
firefox.exe 940 Firefox Mozilla Corporation 121,024 K Post reply - Mozilla Firefox Running
explorer.exe 1500 Windows Explorer Microsoft Corporation 103,784 K Program Manager Running
DPCs n/a 0.76 Deferred Procedure Calls 0 K
daemon.exe 1372 DAEMON Tools Lite DT Soft Ltd 50,200 K
CurseClient.exe 1744 51,756 K
CurseClient.exe 1228 Curse Client Curse 467,608 K
ctfmon.exe 1408 CTF Loader Microsoft Corporation 29,680 K
csrss.exe 892 Client Server Runtime Process Microsoft Corporation 49,432 K
btdna.exe 1472 DNA BitTorrent, Inc. 51,992 K
aswUpdSv.exe 1888 avast! Antivirus updating service ALWIL Software 16,968 K
ashWebSv.exe 2436 avast! Web Scanner ALWIL Software 137,060 K
ashServ.exe 1944 avast! antivirus service ALWIL Software 170,808 K
ashMaiSv.exe 2276 avast! e-Mail Scanner Service ALWIL Software 48,040 K
ashDisp.exe 576 avast! service GUI component ALWIL Software 45,328 K
aolsoftware.exe 2852 AOL AOL LLC 68,548 K
alg.exe 2832 Application Layer Gateway Service Microsoft Corporation 32,940 K
aim6.exe 604 AIM AOL LLC 194,128 K 2 IMs Running
agrsmsvc.exe 1568 Agere Soft Modem Call Progress Service Agere Systems 10,868 K
Here's WoW running normally (at about 30 FPS). It ran a bit better just now. It took maybe 10 minutes to screw up and then it seemed to recover rather quickly. and for some reason it even went up to 40-50 FPS for a couple seconds intermittently too. O.o Maybe because it's 1:30 AM?
Process PID CPU Description Company Name Virtual Size Window Title Window Status
WUSB54GSC.exe 3324 15.38 Linksys 74,520 K
wuauclt.exe 2280 Windows Update Microsoft Corporation 36,872 K
Wow.exe 2920 World of Warcraft Retail Blizzard Entertainment 476,264 K World of Warcraft Running
WLService.exe 736 WLService GEMTEKS 17,412 K
winlogon.exe 916 Windows NT Logon Application Microsoft Corporation 56,412 K
ViewpointService.exe 672 ViewMgr Viewpoint Corporation 29,996 K
TurbineNetworkService.exe 3908 TurbineNetworkService.exe Turbine, Inc. 164,740 K
TurbineMessageService.exe 1720 TurbineMessageService.exe Turbine, Inc. 160,704 K
TurbineDownloadManagerIcon.exe 520 0.77 TurbineDownloadManagerIcon.exe Turbine, Inc. 169,444 K
System Idle Process 0 70.00 0 K
System 4 1,884 K
svchost.exe 1204 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 61,272 K
svchost.exe 1272 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 35,324 K
svchost.exe 1416 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 156,740 K
svchost.exe 1532 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 31,636 K
svchost.exe 1668 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 52,256 K
svchost.exe 1344 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 32,480 K
svchost.exe 4080 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 36,628 K
spoolsv.exe 488 Spooler SubSystem App Microsoft Corporation 41,872 K
smss.exe 816 Windows NT Session Manager Microsoft Corporation 3,808 K
services.exe 964 0.77 Services and Controller app Microsoft Corporation 22,032 K
rundll32.exe 568 Run a DLL as an App Microsoft Corporation 35,048 K
RTHDCPL.EXE 188 Realtek HD Audio Control Panel Realtek Semiconductor Corp. 61,080 K
procexp.exe 3160 6.92 Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com 96,188 K Process Explorer - Sysinternals: www.sysinternals.com [JONATHAN-74D56F\Jonathan] Running
PresentationFontCache.exe 1632 PresentationFontCache.exe Microsoft Corporation 108,684 K
nvsvc32.exe 1136 NVIDIA Driver Helper Service, Version 195.62 NVIDIA Corporation 39,112 K
msmsgs.exe 656 Windows Messenger Microsoft Corporation 42,672 K
lsass.exe 976 LSA Shell (Export Version) Microsoft Corporation 42,556 K
jusched.exe 296 Java(TM) Platform SE binary Sun Microsystems, Inc. 31,096 K
jucheck.exe 3692 Java(TM) Update Checker Sun Microsystems, Inc. 49,612 K
jqs.exe 1184 Java(TM) Quick Starter Service Sun Microsystems, Inc. 37,052 K
Interrupts n/a Hardware Interrupts 0 K
firefox.exe 940 Firefox Mozilla Corporation 122,104 K Post reply - Mozilla Firefox Running
explorer.exe 1500 Windows Explorer Microsoft Corporation 106,220 K ProcessExplorer Running
DPCs n/a 2.31 Deferred Procedure Calls 0 K
daemon.exe 1372 DAEMON Tools Lite DT Soft Ltd 50,200 K
CurseClient.exe 1744 51,756 K
CurseClient.exe 1228 Curse Client Curse 467,608 K
ctfmon.exe 1408 CTF Loader Microsoft Corporation 29,680 K
csrss.exe 892 2.31 Client Server Runtime Process Microsoft Corporation 48,916 K
btdna.exe 1472 DNA BitTorrent, Inc. 51,992 K
aswUpdSv.exe 1888 avast! Antivirus updating service ALWIL Software 16,968 K
ashWebSv.exe 2436 avast! Web Scanner ALWIL Software 137,060 K
ashServ.exe 1944 avast! antivirus service ALWIL Software 170,808 K
ashMaiSv.exe 2276 avast! e-Mail Scanner Service ALWIL Software 48,040 K
ashDisp.exe 576 avast! service GUI component ALWIL Software 45,328 K
aolsoftware.exe 2852 AOL AOL LLC 68,548 K
alg.exe 2832 Application Layer Gateway Service Microsoft Corporation 32,940 K
aim6.exe 604 1.54 AIM AOL LLC 194,128 K 2 IMs (2 new) Running
agrsmsvc.exe 1568 Agere Soft Modem Call Progress Service Agere Systems 10,868 K
Now here it is with the lag at about 15-20 FPS. Granted, for some reason it took a fair bit longer tonight to get to this point and it seemed to recover rather quickly. Whether this is just a fluke or not, I can't tell.
Process PID CPU Description Company Name Virtual Size Window Title Window Status
WUSB54GSC.exe 3324 45.45 Linksys 74,520 K
wuauclt.exe 2280 Windows Update Microsoft Corporation 36,872 K
Wow.exe 2920 0.76 World of Warcraft Retail Blizzard Entertainment 625,388 K World of Warcraft Running
WLService.exe 736 WLService GEMTEKS 17,412 K
winlogon.exe 916 Windows NT Logon Application Microsoft Corporation 56,156 K
ViewpointService.exe 672 ViewMgr Viewpoint Corporation 29,996 K
TurbineNetworkService.exe 3908 TurbineNetworkService.exe Turbine, Inc. 164,740 K
TurbineMessageService.exe 1720 TurbineMessageService.exe Turbine, Inc. 160,704 K
TurbineDownloadManagerIcon.exe 520 TurbineDownloadManagerIcon.exe Turbine, Inc. 169,444 K
System Idle Process 0 46.21 0 K
System 4 1,884 K
svchost.exe 1204 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 61,272 K
svchost.exe 1272 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 35,068 K
svchost.exe 1416 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 155,972 K
svchost.exe 1532 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 31,380 K
svchost.exe 1668 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 51,488 K
svchost.exe 1344 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 32,480 K
svchost.exe 4080 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation 36,628 K
spoolsv.exe 488 Spooler SubSystem App Microsoft Corporation 41,872 K
smss.exe 816 Windows NT Session Manager Microsoft Corporation 3,808 K
services.exe 964 0.76 Services and Controller app Microsoft Corporation 22,032 K
rundll32.exe 568 Run a DLL as an App Microsoft Corporation 35,048 K
RTHDCPL.EXE 188 Realtek HD Audio Control Panel Realtek Semiconductor Corp. 61,080 K
procexp.exe 3160 6.06 Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com 95,168 K Process Explorer - Sysinternals: www.sysinternals.com [JONATHAN-74D56F\Jonathan] Running
PresentationFontCache.exe 1632 PresentationFontCache.exe Microsoft Corporation 108,684 K
nvsvc32.exe 1136 NVIDIA Driver Helper Service, Version 195.62 NVIDIA Corporation 39,112 K
msmsgs.exe 656 Windows Messenger Microsoft Corporation 42,672 K
lsass.exe 976 LSA Shell (Export Version) Microsoft Corporation 42,556 K
jusched.exe 296 Java(TM) Platform SE binary Sun Microsystems, Inc. 31,096 K
jucheck.exe 3692 Java(TM) Update Checker Sun Microsystems, Inc. 49,612 K
jqs.exe 1184 Java(TM) Quick Starter Service Sun Microsystems, Inc. 37,052 K
Interrupts n/a Hardware Interrupts 0 K
firefox.exe 940 Firefox Mozilla Corporation 121,024 K Post reply - Mozilla Firefox Running
explorer.exe 1500 Windows Explorer Microsoft Corporation 103,784 K Program Manager Running
DPCs n/a 0.76 Deferred Procedure Calls 0 K
daemon.exe 1372 DAEMON Tools Lite DT Soft Ltd 50,200 K
CurseClient.exe 1744 51,756 K
CurseClient.exe 1228 Curse Client Curse 467,608 K
ctfmon.exe 1408 CTF Loader Microsoft Corporation 29,680 K
csrss.exe 892 Client Server Runtime Process Microsoft Corporation 49,432 K
btdna.exe 1472 DNA BitTorrent, Inc. 51,992 K
aswUpdSv.exe 1888 avast! Antivirus updating service ALWIL Software 16,968 K
ashWebSv.exe 2436 avast! Web Scanner ALWIL Software 137,060 K
ashServ.exe 1944 avast! antivirus service ALWIL Software 170,808 K
ashMaiSv.exe 2276 avast! e-Mail Scanner Service ALWIL Software 48,040 K
ashDisp.exe 576 avast! service GUI component ALWIL Software 45,328 K
aolsoftware.exe 2852 AOL AOL LLC 68,548 K
alg.exe 2832 Application Layer Gateway Service Microsoft Corporation 32,940 K
aim6.exe 604 AIM AOL LLC 194,128 K 2 IMs Running
agrsmsvc.exe 1568 Agere Soft Modem Call Progress Service Agere Systems 10,868 K
Last edited by Maluce on Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:23 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Having some serious lag trouble and need some help.
Google around a bit for info on the TurbineDownloadManager and btdna.exe.
Both are known memory / bandwidth hogs.
They do have legitimate uses - the Turbine Download Manager is used by LotRO and btdna.exe is used by lots of bittorrent clients.
Removing - or at lease disabling them - might help out a bit.
The Curseclient is also a massive memory hog. I'd go for disabling that too while you're diagnosing the problem.
Both are known memory / bandwidth hogs.
They do have legitimate uses - the Turbine Download Manager is used by LotRO and btdna.exe is used by lots of bittorrent clients.
Removing - or at lease disabling them - might help out a bit.
The Curseclient is also a massive memory hog. I'd go for disabling that too while you're diagnosing the problem.
Re: Having some serious lag trouble and need some help.
You really don't need to look much further.Page File: 586MB used, 1872MB available
As everyone else is suggesting, if you up your RAM by a gig you will see a major difference. Pretty cheap these days too.
In the short term, get rid of your Turbine message center thing (and anything else Turbine). It is devouring your ram.
Also read this:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... 5576&sid=1
In particular the blue post that says:
Also, shut down the curse client before starting wow.Could you completely uninstall this for now?
Q u o t e:
Turbine Network Service - Live LiveTurbineNetworkService Stopped Manual Own Process "c:\program files\turbine\turbine download manager\turbinenetworkservice.exe"
467 megs right there. ouch.CurseClient.exe 1228 Curse Client Curse 467,608 K
Oh. And close firefox.
Basically you want to have as few programs running as possible. Turbine, Curse, Firefox..all huge memory hogs. Close em. Close anything you don't need. Get rid of as much stuff out of your system tray as possible. Leave a firewall and antivirus and any app you consider necessary, then close the rest. You should see a huge improvement.
Mal
Last edited by Malstrom on Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Having some serious lag trouble and need some help.
After you get yourself upgraded, if you find that running in fullscreen works better as well, look into Xfire. It's a messaging system that works as an overlay to games, so that you don't need to alt-tab, and it's now got AIM connectivity. It also has its own mini-browser, if for say you're a WoWhead addict.
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Re: Having some serious lag trouble and need some help.
I wish X-fire had a Mac version. 
Re: Having some serious lag trouble and need some help.
There's gotta be something similar for Mac people. You'd think.
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Re: Having some serious lag trouble and need some help.
Grainger just sent me a link to iFire in chat, which looks like it does it, yep.
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Maluce
Re: Having some serious lag trouble and need some help.
Well, here's an update:
I completely deleted Turbine and closed off Curse and everything else. From what I could tell it only helped a tiny bit. Right now, I'm downloading AVG anti-virus and anti-spyware. Free. Then, tonight as I go to sleep I'll either run a defragmentation of my C: drive and run those scans. If, after that, I'm still unable to really play I'll start looking into buying some Ram. I've got a friend who's adamant that I just need a new computer but I'm not exactly made of money so Ram's definitely seemingly the next best thing. However, this may take anywhere between a week to about a month. Since the situation makes it almost too frustrating to play -- I've got to ask, what's The Grim's policy on new supplicants with sudden computer issues? ><
I completely deleted Turbine and closed off Curse and everything else. From what I could tell it only helped a tiny bit. Right now, I'm downloading AVG anti-virus and anti-spyware. Free. Then, tonight as I go to sleep I'll either run a defragmentation of my C: drive and run those scans. If, after that, I'm still unable to really play I'll start looking into buying some Ram. I've got a friend who's adamant that I just need a new computer but I'm not exactly made of money so Ram's definitely seemingly the next best thing. However, this may take anywhere between a week to about a month. Since the situation makes it almost too frustrating to play -- I've got to ask, what's The Grim's policy on new supplicants with sudden computer issues? ><
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Re: Having some serious lag trouble and need some help.
I point you to the Mandate, section 3 subsection b paragraph 2: "Shit happens"
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Re: Having some serious lag trouble and need some help.
I'll mark you down as taking a leave of absence. Keep me posted, and when you're back, we'll pick things up. Not a big deal. As Bloodscream says, shit happens.Maluce wrote: Since the situation makes it almost too frustrating to play -- I've got to ask, what's The Grim's policy on new supplicants with sudden computer issues? ><
Basic principle: Stay alive! When you die, your DPS is zero.