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Pincus is denying the possibility of a carefully crafted shell around the hollow centre that provides the effect of a full core.

Obviously any race capable of hollowing out the core and generating the magnetic field is capable of creating such a simple camouflage.
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And to thoroughly spam this thread:

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Greebo wrote: Pincus is denying the possibility of a carefully crafted shell around the hollow centre that provides the effect of a full core.

Obviously any race capable of hollowing out the core and generating the magnetic field is capable of creating such a simple camouflage.
And the density needed for such an object to patch the hollowness would have other implications, like, say THEY SHOULD FREAKING P0WN OUR FACES.
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They could, if they wanted to. They choose not to.

That should make you very very afraid.

The fact that seismological readings show a non-hollow earth can *only* mean that they are being hunted by an older and more powerful race. *We* are part of their camouflage.
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But we are back to my problem with things... we assume we know everything that could possibly be down there and base our facts off of that... it could be hitting something outside a hollow core that slows the vibrations enough to assume its not hollow. We cannot track the waves through specific areas, we take the entire equation and work it backwards from there... again assuming that we are only working with elements we are aware of. We have no technology that can actually find what is at the center. We have no ability to prove these theories yet we pass them off as fact.

Another example of this is that the entire idea of carbon dating is now in question. It was thought up until recently that the decay of carbon14 was constant. Within the last few months they have discovered that the sun is now radiating something that causes carbon14's decay time to fluctuate. That means that everything that has been carbon dated could be completely false.... We make giant assumptions in science and go with out best guesses. In the not so distant future they will mock us for our science like we mock people who thought the world was flat.
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You can only draw conclusions based on the evidence you have. Until recently C14 decay was observed to be constant. Now they think there are likely to be some fluctuations but we aren't talking several orders of magnitude. The theory of gravity is just that, a theory based on observations. I bet if I drop a sledgehammer from 10 feet over your head you will move, even though gravity is just a theory. The scientific method was also used to craft the internet and the computers we use to play WoW - with the same observation, hypothesis, test, refine process that is used to propose the earth's core stuff.

It would be more fair to say "As far as we can tell, our best estimates, based on Datum A1 .. ZZZZ1234, are that the earth's core is made of molten iron compressed via pressure into a solid covered in a rotating nickel-iron sheath"

But prefacing every sentence with the history of metallurgy, geology, and geophysics is clumsy.

In school they told you the earth was round. It isn't. Very subtly egg-shaped, actually.
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Greebo wrote: Very subtly egg-shaped, actually.
I'm pretty sure that that is what I was told in school.
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WHY ARE YOU ALL IGNORING THIS NEW, SCIENTIFIC PROOF THAT CTHULHU WILL CONSUME US ALL?!
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I think "oblate sphere" was the term they used at my school.  This confused us later when we learned about oblate monks, because it implied being kind of a squashed sphere was part of being a monk.

But yes, maybe the world is hollow and the inside is painted with a thin film of neutronium, because this is completely reasonable and not at all insane.

And within the sphere, safe from the pinprick lights of the stars and the beacon of the sun, sleeps Tzeshtholotep among his thousand arms, waiting for the night to come - the final night, when the stars burn to ash and the old ones can awake and feed on the smouldering cinders of our dead universe.  We are but maggots squirming in the larder of our dark creators, the universe nothing but a table laden with food, awaiting the arrival of the king and his court.
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Greebo wrote: You can only draw conclusions based on the evidence you have. Until recently C14 decay was observed to be constant. Now they think there are likely to be some fluctuations but we aren't talking several orders of magnitude. The theory of gravity is just that, a theory based on observations. I bet if I drop a sledgehammer from 10 feet over your head you will move, even though gravity is just a theory. The scientific method was also used to craft the internet and the computers we use to play WoW - with the same observation, hypothesis, test, refine process that is used to propose the earth's core stuff.
Thanks. :D I was about to go into my rant on cargo cult science, and the perversion of scientific results and theories to prove a point. I simply close with some wisdom:

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts."

(Bonus points for the references...)
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Wait, so you're telling me that an egg's shape is not round?
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